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Perrotto: Right or Wrong Decision, it’s Baseball in 2024

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Andy Haines, Pittsburgh Pirates, Derek Shelton

Derek Shelton has made thousands of decisions during his five seasons as the Pittsburgh Pirates’ manager.

Some have worked out. Others have backfired. Plenty have been second-guessed.

That’s the nature of the job.

However, Shelton has never made a more controversial move than he did with rookie right-hander Jared Jones on Tuesday night. Shelton pulled Jones after the 22-year-old pitched five scoreless innings against the Mets in New York.

Amazingly, Jones got the hook despite throwing 59 pitches. He would have had a perfect game going if left fielder Bryan Reynolds hadn’t just missed Pete Alonso’s fly ball in the second inning.

Jones being removed from the game was baffling, especially since he had been extremely efficient with his pitches in his fourth career start. He averaged just 3.7 per batter and seemed to have plenty left in the tank after throwing 89, 80 and 85 pitches in his first three outings.

Yet it ended up being a five-and-dive for Jones.

Well, it turned out it wasn’t Shelton’s decision. The Pirates had already determined that Jones would pitch no more than five innings before the game started. To use one of baseball’s favorite modern-day phrases, it was a collaborative effort between the front office and the coaching staff.

Jones was pitching on four days of rest for the first time in his four-year professional career. The Pirates decided it would be unwise to push him beyond five innings.

The decision backfired from a win-loss standpoint. The bullpen couldn’t hold a 1-0 lead bequeathed from Jones and the Pirates wound up losing 3-1.

Shelton admitted after the game that it was difficult to end Jones’ outing so early. However, he was unapologetic about it.

And, in a bit of a surprise, the ultra-competitive Jones said he was fine with the decision. Jones also said he appreciates the Pirates keeping a close watch on his workload.

Jones pitched 66 innings in his first pro season in 2021, then 122.2 innings in 2022 and 126.1 innings last year. Understandably, the Pirates won’t have him pitch 200 innings this season or even 180.

Yet, from an old-school perspective – yes, I’m old — it was difficult to see a pitcher lifted after a sensational outing in which he threw 50 of his 59 pitches for strikes. That was an amazing 84.7% strike rate.

Not only was Jones’ start sensational and amazing, but it was also historic. He became the first major-league pitcher to throw 60 or fewer pitches and 50 or more strikes in a start since detailed pitch data started being compiled in 2000.

Jones is now 1-2 with a 3.13 ERA through four starts. He has 32 strikeouts in 23 innings with just two walks.

Jones is also just the fourth MLB pitcher to have at least seven strikeouts in each of his first four career starts since 1893 when the current mound distance of 60 feet, 6 inches was established.

It might not be too early to say the Pirates have a phenom on their hands. Jones’ starts are becoming must-watch events.

It would have been nice to watch him pitch more than five innings on Tuesday night. However, whether right or wrong, that’s baseball in 2024.

John Perrotto is a columnist for Pittsburgh Baseball Now and has covered the Pittsburgh Pirates and MLB since 1988.

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Ron Cokeane

It’s a marathon, not a sprint. The fact that they are being cautious with Jones and really pampering Skenes along tells me that they are thinking that they are very possibly going to need them both in October.
Pirate fans would seethe if the Bucs were in a hot pennant chase in mid-September, and suddenly there was an edict from the front office to shut Skenes and Jones down because they had reached their quota of innings for the season.
This would be working out better if we could just get more consistency from our bullpen. Not having Modlzinski, Holderman, Moreta, and Borucki for lengths of time is really hurting. Not to mention Bednar’s slow start.

John DiDominic

I have no issue with limiting Jones. So many pitchers down with arm issues, better to plan for long season. The bigger issue is their offense You don’t win too many games scoring 1 run – and that ONE was an ‘accident’. Sloppy defense and baserunning doesn’t help. Pen is much weaker than we had hoped. This pirate team will likely finish around 500 – which is still a good move in the right direction.

Chris Chapman

Pitchers are blowing their arms out all over the place while these measures are in place. So are they working?

A pitch count would be more understandable than an innings count. What if he had labored and pitched 5 innings but had thrown 89 pitches? What if he had pitched the 6th and had thrown only 6 more pitches? I appreciate that they should try and protect the pitchers, but I get the feeling people are pretending they know more than they really do. There should be some evidence that the cautious works. I don’t see it.

Ron Cokeane

Good point. 59 pitches through 5 innings is exceptional, and could have warranted another inning and still achieved the goal of limiting workload.

john benedict

I agree with the decision to closely monitor but highly disagree with the 5 inning max

It’s not hard to figure out after watching JJ, losing is NOT in his DNA,

5 INNINGS = no decsion or a loss

Do they want it that way? POSSIBLY

What about moving forward? WINS, QUALITY STARTS few and far between?

Those two stats which go hand in hand with ROY votes are some of the primary components used when determining your value going into to arbitration

Its not hard
Jared were going to start reducing your work load, we didn’t want any surprises so sometime in the middle innings, expect a visit,

Its seems strange telling someone, you can’t win

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